 Well, if the government just TELLS
us, what's the big deal? At least
we have the info., and we can form
our own opinions and make our own
decisions.
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 23 Oct 2007 23:16
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 I agree with Amore on the other
side. However, if the Government
wants to make some recommendation
it is probably done more for the
benefit of industry than
individuals, so let them come out
with a figure, and then us sensible
cynics will distrust it anyway,
right?
Just so you know why I'm posting on
this side - my point is that we
then have some legal leverage if
their figure turns out to be wrong.
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 23 Oct 2007 19:54
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 We have to take some responsibility
for discerning what is safe,
healthy or not for our particular
circumstances. But having said
that, it is unlikely that any
citizen has the resources or the
time to keep abreast of all the
health hazards. We are dependant
on governmental agencies. We need
The Center For Disease Control to
keep tabs on pathogens and
mutations of infectious viruses and
we need to heed their warnings. We
need the Meat Inspectors to be
keeping Mad Cow Disease away from
our shores through their
interventions. We need the Fish
Commission to monitor mercury
levels. On and so forth, we are
dependant on federally funded watch
dogs for our well being. We have
become suspicious of the motives
and intentions of anything
connected with government. Much
malfeasance has eroded our faith.
We wonder when we are being told
the truth and how much information
is being withheld from us because
of some political motive. Although
flawed, the systems in place are
still our best chance for pertinent
information and control of societal
hazards.
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 24 Oct 2007 01:55
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 Everyone knows I have several
levels I answer in!
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 23 Oct 2007 21:50
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 So what about organically grown
veggies and fruits?
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 25 Oct 2007 03:45
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 I generally question and evaluate
everything someone says-- not
because I mean to be contentious,
but because of my own curiosity.
So mostly I question statements of
"fact" and weigh them against what
else is out there as far as others'
experience and knowledge. Where I
lack knowledge, I try to go looking
for evidence for alternative/both
points of view.
In this case, I rely only partially
on what has been established-- I
don't believe there is some large
conspiracy to destroy my well
being, but I don't fully trust that
people and organizations who have
other priorities are necessarily
looking out for my individual well
being, either. I try to gather as
much information as possible and
make an informed decision, and not
rely on others to dictate that.
In this case, I think it behooves
individuals to look at what the
empirical evidence is, and to err
on the side of caution, which I
don't think the "experts" have
done. It seems even when the FDA
established "recommended daily
requirements" for vitamins and
minerals, for example, that this
standard may be lower than is
required for optimum human health
and for certain individuals. I'm
reading a book right now by an M.D,
Ph.D. In nutrition who has an
established a very successful track
record of treating patients with
certain conditions by adjusting
those vitamin.mineral levels
upward. It's just new information
-- not some government consipracy
to ruin my health-- and god knows
the governmental reaction and
research time is greatly lagging --
it's like turning the Titanic, for
heaven's sake. They have to think
of doing the study, get the
approval for studies, get budget
approved for the studies, be
reviewed by every citizen activist
group in the country, conduct the
studies, validate the studies, face
the political lobbyists to get the
study results published, and
finally, someday, maybe the info
gets to the public. I think it's
just better to conduct our own
independent studies, honor what we
know to be true in our own
experience, and watch and listen
for educational resources also.
I'm not sure we can trust anyone as
much as our selves to look out for
what works best for us/our lives.
I think that's at least part of the
reason we were given thinking
brains.
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 23 Oct 2007 19:28
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 I recently found out that the FDA
does not even have the authority to
yank medications etc. If their is
major health problems related to
them off of shelves by themselves.
They must beg and plead with the
drug company first and sometimes it
can take months and even years
before those drugs get pulled! That
is rediculous! How can we trust
them to care about our health! It
is the drug companies that line
thier pockets!
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 23 Oct 2007 23:38
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 I'm against the government telling
me what's good or bad for me.
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 06 May 2008 17:25
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 It's true that the federal
government doesn't have the best
track record when it comes to the
safety of the American people.
I think that for the most part the
government has acted in good faith.
It wasn't until new technologies
were deveopled and additional
studies were done that things they
proclaimed safe turned not to be
so, and that has shaken the trust
we have placed in the
government.
More recently, things have gotten
worse. For one thing the
government seems to be in the back
pocket of the pharmaceutical
companies. Look at all the drugs
that were declared safe and have
turned out to be deadly.
Big tobacco is another case in
point. How long have the dangers
of tobacco been known? But it's a
cash crop, and drives the economy
of many states.
Unfortunately, I trust the current
administration even less than any
other. Big business and the bottom
line drives it, and that includes
the FDA!
Until the government proves to
Americans that it can once again be
trusted, we need to decide for
ourselves what is safe and what
isn't. But that takes work on our
part.
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 23 Oct 2007 23:01
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 Everyone know I have several levels
I answer things. So here's one! The
herbicides used on your vegetables
are 1st cousin to Agent Orange in
Vietnam! And they are leached or
adsorbed by the very food you eat
to a Small degree, and the
government puts this into the
excepted levels by THEIR rules! The
vet's with Agent Orange are dieing
like flies with cancer and other
problems, with horrible pain! Now
we learn that their children and
grandchildren have it to the same
degree! And it's out their, BUT the
government is trying to hide this
fact from you!
So IS their a safe level of
something that your body will Hold
for all eternity, and the more you
get the more you have! Then their
is the run off over these farmers
fields and into lakes, rivers and
your very water supply, too! Now
these heavy metals, pesticides, and
fertilizers are going by the same
rules! This leaching and adsorbing
effects are being done with the
roots and/or the leaves! Now ADD
the things that are coming out of
the smoke stakes on plants through
out the world!
WE HAVE A PROBLEM, and it's a big
one, too!
Cowboy101
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