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Should They Have Or Be Given Constutional Rights Even Though They Are Criminals That Broke And Are Breaking The Law!?! What Say You?
by Thepatriot Thepatriot
 27 Aug 2007 04:14  
Against
 Illegals should have some rights they are not criminals!
 09 Dec 2007 00:07
by Babypooh Babypooh
 This is a tough question. This country was founded as a republic, a place for people to be free of all kinds of persecution and injustices.

I don't see how we can deny anyone basic rights and freedoms as set forth in our Constitution.

I also believe we have to draw the line at those "rights" that are more benefits than rights. By that I'm referring to things like education and social services. As citizens, we pay for these when we pay taxes. If they don't pay taxes, they have no rights to these services, but human and civil rights should be extended to all.
 14 Sep 2007 13:21
by Robbier44 Robbier44
 At least some rights, they are human beings. How can you compare a criminal with an illegal alien. The actual criminals that kill people, that rape and that torture other human being has rights and a person that come from his native country to make some money to survive they get no rights at all. Its crazy but it seems to me like you rather live next to a killer/thief/rapist than illegal alien.
 30 Jul 2008 06:05
by Panson Panson
 They deserve rights i mean they are human beings even if they have done bad things. But it should only be to a certain extent i mean it is jail!
 27 Aug 2007 05:58
by Aussie_gal Aussie_gal
 Actually, anyone inside US borders has Constitutional rights. That's where our guidelines for treating lawbreakers fairly come from.
 09 May 2008 19:08
by Guest Guest
 Wait a minute, we are a FREE country, well supposedly a free country. We have no official language, so therefore they can come in not knowing English, and be able to get by with it.

What about Native Americans? They are the true people to come to this country. Us WHITES stole their land, so we are actually the immigrants who slaughtered Native Americans.
 03 Feb 2008 16:50
by Gorillaz Gorillaz
 When u go to the restaurant, who do u think that is making ur food? For sure it will be an immigrant and probably this person will be illegal.the guy who do landscaping in ur house, yes...hes illegal too!we all need then and we should have more respect for then.
And there's more. They r not illegal because they want to...with u dig more, ull see that is no way now days to an immigrant get things by the right way!!!
 23 Jan 2008 18:19
by Deltabase Deltabase
 I agree with amore01 we are turning into a oppressive, communist government. There's so many examples like with the cold war and the Berlin wall, we took that down because it stood for oppression and the governments control. So if you want to build a bigger, better wall we are just making the same mistake. How can we tell who can and cant have the basic rights that our government created for people just like the immigrants who are looking for a better life for their families.
 21 Jan 2008 21:20
by Shmief Shmief
 Yes! The problem that I have with the illegal immigration issue is that it seems like it is a racial thing! I heard a politician say that one of the main reasons to be against this is that we are losing our language that Spanish will soon be our dominant language! I think if it was Candians coming over the border their would not be an issue! They speak English afterall! As for their rights I believe they should be grnated these rights! Trust me when I tell you that not everyone in this country now had ancestors that came legally! I also knew many families where the grandparents spoke fluent Italian or Spanish and not a lick of English! How soon we forget the phrase that appears on the Statue of Liberty!
 28 Aug 2007 00:28
by Phreekshow Phreekshow
 This is an issue with so many facets and so complex I think it's difficult to cover all points in this forum. I think the question lends itself better to debate in person or the question needs to be broken down/clarified. Are you (or the "no side" of this debate) advocating depriving people residing in this country of the right to free speech and to practice their religion (1st Amendment), for example, based solely on citizenship status? Are you referring to ALL constitutional rights? There are many consititutional rights, and so it seems vague. DO you mean to suggest we as a nation desert our founding principle of democracy over this issue of immigrants?

I'm not quite clear on your stance, but first, I thinks its rather communistic-thinking of someone to advocate giving up our nation's principles of democracy for this issue. Do democratic principles survive in the face of whatever issues, or do we just arbitrarily toss them depending on the issue? Would you advocate the deprivation of the right to speak freely, the right to practice one's religion freely based on lack of a person's citizenship in this country?? Even our most vicious criminals enjoy these constitutional rights. Or would you have our government act with licensed abandonment of democracy against free peoples in this nation (citizens or not) by conducting search and seizure with no probable cause? When you are faced with a moral dilemma, do you just toss your principles-- or just conveniently change them (situational principles)or do you stand on those principles to seek solutions? At what expense to our nation's principles and democracy would denial of consititutional rights be? What great seedlings for government corruption! A person who believes this way is a sure threat to democracy and to this nation --moreso than any immigrant will ever be, in my opinion.

And lest we forget, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, while providing for individual rights of people, was drafted primarily to ensure that the balance of power of government would be checked and balanced against that of the people residing in this nation. The forefathers took pen in hand to reign in and prevent the indiscrimnate use of power and prevent anarchistic practice by the government, and the "rights" you refer to were the means by which they did it, not vice versa.

Besides all this, how much practical sense does it make to deny an illegal immigrant the right to a speedy trial? Or even a trial? (6th amendment). Would we prefer to pronounce an innocent person guilty without trial? Would we prefer to fund his or her comfortable stay in a jail funded by taxpayer money when this person might well be innocent of whatever charge was brought against him/her? Talk about a recipe for disaster and an invitation to corrupt government authority practices.

Our country was founded on the principles of democracy, and it doesn't make sense to me that we are provoked to behave against those principles and/or behave anarchistically for ANY reason. I say we focus on understanding and effectively addressing the the immigration issue, not be goaded into non-democratic/ anarchistic, unprincipled government lawlessness because of illegal immigration/immigrants and people who just want to throw their hands in the air and not address the core problem.
 27 Aug 2007 21:54
by Amore01 Amore01
 They have baisc rights under international law but they do not have the same rights as citizens. Not really sure what constitutional ritghts you are referring to. Should they be allowed to vote? No. Should they have the right to a fair trial, yes.
 27 Aug 2007 06:11
by Blurthater Blurthater
 Illegal's illegal, man. I bet there are some prison inmates in Guantanamo who would like some legal rights...maybe we should start there? Or better yet, start allowing any AMERICAN accused of a crime more complete rights.

I don't understand how we can screw over our own decade after decade and then look to issues like this- giving criminals more rights. Come on.
 24 Sep 2007 04:43
by Jessa Jessa
 They are breaking the law and should not receive any special treatment. They need to enter our country legally and then they are entitled to benefits such as Social Security.
 27 Aug 2007 17:03
by Dhenders Dhenders
 They're called illegal for reason, they're breaking the law. They should not have constitutional rights because the are not citizens
 12 Jan 2008 17:02
by Diaflor Diaflor
 No, I don't believe that ILLEGALS should be given rights under OUR constitution. I think we need to tighten up our border control and deport all ILLEGALS. I mean I think that if they want the same rights that we have then they can try and get citizenship, but as far as them coming here to work and then just leave and take that money back to their families, I think that that's wrong. We have poverty here in the states, but we can't seem to do anything about it because the illegals are coming in and taking the jobs that true citizens could have had.

I could go on and on for days, but I'm not going to. This topic just gets me fired up! Lol
 28 Sep 2007 05:40
by Lilsqueak Lilsqueak
 I agree with autfamily - if they want to live in the US, going through the proper process - takes a long time, but go by the rules! The little children are what are sad about this illegal thing. The parents are here illegally, their child gets sick so they take them to the doctor/hospital. Medical professionals are responsible to treat them whether illegal or not. Unfortunately, we the taxpayers, are paying the costs. Last week, a City of Phx policer was killed by an illegal. The illegal had several warrants out for his arrest. He had been sent back to Mexico several times, but just came right back over the border...something definitely needs to be done. We have "Sheriff Joe" who is loved AND hated. He has a hotline to call if you discover any illegals in your neighborhood. Many drophouses have been discovered and people arrested.
 24 Sep 2007 23:57
by Desertkid Desertkid
 This country is a JOKE!!!Mexican's and Veitnamies come to the USA and get on Welfare, which should be for the elderly and American Families who NEED it!!! They are taking Job's that our men and women need to support their families! They come here and get a Job, not only Breaking the law bieing here illegally!? When they get a Job here then they claim 7, 9, 11?!ect!! Dependents and make More Money than most American's who have been on their Job's for Year's!! And then on top of everything else, for so many year's they don't have to Pay Taxes!!! The USA need to send EVERYONE of them back where they came from!!! Where are the Law's of this Country? Did someone forget them?! If they go thru the Process and get their Legal Documentation to be here then fine. But, until then send them back where they belong. The Government is screaming tax dollars, they Allowed this to happen, so deal with it!!! We are the one's suffering because our Government Allowed this to ahappen!!! These people come here Commit Crimes Rape, Driving Drunk ect.. Kill and they get a slap on the hand sent back and then end up back in the U.S. Again!!
 29 Aug 2007 10:54
by Horsin Horsin
 They should have no rights, period end of statement. And they should be deported.
Did I mention we as USA CITIZENS need to stand up and start doing something about this instead of just changing OUR country to be more hospitable to the illegals here?
 06 Sep 2008 07:50
by My2sense My2sense
 Constitutional rights are for "we the people". Not we and anyone who can sneak in illegally.
 27 Jul 2008 10:03
by Trallen Trallen
 Rights yes, preference NO!
 08 Jun 2008 13:28
by Pencil Pencil
 Illegal aliens, by the mere act of stepping on our soil, are CRIMINALS. They also demonstrate their contempt for the laws of this land, the will of the people, and the Constitution upon which all of our legal authority is based. Foreigners who demonstrate nothing but contempt for the Constitution deserve none of it's protections.
 04 Jun 2008 00:44
by Billzbub Billzbub
 No, they should not have any rights. They should be put on a plane and shiped back to Mexico. There lives are miserables here too. And they also steal peoples identities to stay in the country.
 04 Jun 2008 00:38
by Jessmw_jmw Jessmw_jmw
 That is just mind boggling, perhaps true Americans should get prizes for committing crimes to, maybe if you shoot some one you get a million dollars. That's just ridiculous.
 19 May 2008 18:58
by Gaseater78 Gaseater78
 Got nothing coming except for a way to take'em back wherever they came from.Amnesty is a foolish way of saying it's OK to break the law.Why is this only for illegals and not for other criminals,who are citizens, a way out of their crime?Because it would be wrong,thats why.We need to stand more steadfast and quit cowerring down to people who are here illegally and demanding rights in which they shouldn't have to start with.Also there are many immigrants here legally whose treatment is unsurpassed by the treatment that is given to the ones here illegally.This country was built a lot by immigrants,but as far as I know they were legal,and it should continue that way.Anyone who employs,rents to or harbours anyone who is here illegally should be prosecuted as well.
 12 May 2008 05:35
by B4mental B4mental
 Sorry...if you are illegal and in trouble, you have no rights to violate.
 16 Feb 2008 04:05
by Paulajo Paulajo
 If your illegal and a law breaker then you have no rights.
 07 Feb 2008 04:49
by Cabrunet Cabrunet
 If your are a criminal or an illegal then until all is righted then you have nor rights.
 30 Jan 2008 19:20
by Bwtsrl Bwtsrl
 Absolutely NOT!! Illegal immigration is slowly but surely destroying our country. They should not be given a single right that a true American has (or should have). If they want to become a citizen than they should apply for it just like the law says. But do you know what is sad about this? They actually already have more rights than any true American does. For example they get free education including college, medschool, lawschool, etc. They get free healthcare, so even if you are dying in a waiting room doctors are still required by US law that they see the illegals first (yea stupid right!), they don't have to pay taxes, they are given all of these rights that only true US citizens should get. They are DESTROYING our country, so no, not a single illegal immigrant no matter where they are from should have any rights here in the U.S.
 30 Jan 2008 18:39
by Strange000 Strange000
 Criminal should be sent back to their own countries! No if and's or BUTTS!!! No Constitutional Rights they are not Americans if they did not enter the country legally!
 22 Dec 2007 01:07
by Allgirlde Allgirlde
 Illegals pay tax
they are work force
they are responsible on their work
they looking just for a better life working not stilling
they contribute to the economy
they pay Social security.
And many others good thing that a lot of people do not accept as illegals , they do not have the rights to Drive
Social Security Unemployment welfare and much more
but the only thing they want is their work to support their families. Is that a Crime? Not offense to no one, but for those who believe on god as the national money said
"on God we trust" what this words really mean to you?
Think a little be an let me know.
I just want to said god doesn't want division he wants we love each other.
If we do not love as god teach as. What we are doing.
Which god we are loving ??????????????????

Have a god day
 19 Nov 2007 05:49
by Pezadilla Pezadilla
 Illegal = Against the law. How is this even a question.
 01 Nov 2007 13:16
by Pafarm Pafarm
 We pay taxes - illegals do not. "Illegal Alien" the word illegal is in this phrase - illegal = against the law. What I do not understand is how this is even a question. Against the law people!!!
 01 Nov 2007 13:12
by Pafarm Pafarm
 The only right that is given to an illegal person coming into this country, by the Constitution, is the right to a speedy trial.
Even that is a questionable one. The rights listed in the Bill of Rights were for the legal residents of the country.
By the way they do get a free ride back their place of origin.
 18 Oct 2007 14:42
by Graghost Graghost
 Illegal aliens are breaking the law in coming here and staying here and the government turns around and rewards them with free health care, school programs, etc. This should not be. Deport them. Illegals cost citizens a lot of money and they will overrun the country because they know how lax we are in allowing them to stay here.
 12 Oct 2007 21:13
by Faydra Faydra
 You don't give thieves rights! If they want rights then come in the country legal! Till then they are criminals and parasites!
COWBOY101
 08 Oct 2007 21:26
by Logic101 Logic101
 Not no, but hell no!
 29 Sep 2007 20:54
by Maniac2007 Maniac2007
 Why should illegals get right here at all??? They're not even supposed to be here. If they want to get into the U.S. There are tons of LEGAL ways to do it. Personally they should all be deported a.s.a.p.
 17 Sep 2007 00:45
by Vita334 Vita334
 Wow I do not believe there is even a debate on this . If they were not here like they should be . Send them home . Greed will be the end of this country
 06 Sep 2007 23:06
by Volvo9 Volvo9
 They don"t pay taxes! They should not get luxurious that are payed for by taxpayers. If they pay taxes then by all means let them. Until that happens i don't want my money going to support them!!!
 03 Sep 2007 04:13
by Kisa Kisa
 These people need to have the intent of becoming a United States citizen. The ones who want to become US citizens and are in the process of becoming one should get the same rights as the rest of the citizens.
 27 Aug 2007 12:12
by Shakeit100 Shakeit100
 No I believe they should not get free rights, they need to follow the rules and becomes citizens and do things legally.
 27 Aug 2007 04:47
by Autfamily Autfamily
 No way!
 27 Aug 2007 04:18
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