Do You Think O'Bama Will Come Up With A Health Plan We Can All Live With?

On present showing, I would say not.

I was so glad to come to USA, partly because it would get me away from socialized medicine.  However, it looks like it could be about to follow me here.

Many people in Britain believe that medical treatment should be free at the point of delivery, which means it basically has to be run by the government and paid for with taxes.  This is not the American way, though.  Americans rather seem to want access to affordable and effective private health insurance with some kind of safety net for insurance to be made available to those who would not ordinarily be able to afford it, coupled with elimination of waste, fraud and general runaway costs, plus sufficient doctors, nurses, clinics and hospitals to service the whole population.

Having experienced government run services of all kinds in Britain, I have to say that, even though you pay for them through your taxes, your status changes subtly in a government run service from a client or customer to a charity case.  In other words, you no longer receive the service as of right because you have, or are, paying for it, but because the people running the service decide that, firstly, you qualify to receive it and, secondly, that they can afford it, and thirdly, that it is now your turn to receive.  Money is not well ring-fenced in England, and it is not uncommon for taxes to be spent on totally different things to what the taxpayers were being charged for.  Then when they need those services, the money has run out.  Someone who is healthy like myself, can pay lifelong into the National Health service, receive little to nothing from it because we are in good health most of our lives, and then in the last two to five years of our lives, when we need the treatments, be told that we are not worth treating because of our age.  That is totally dishonest.  Our taxes fund other people's care and then we are denied care when we need it!  The latest is that, rather than be treated, a sick and seriously incapacitated elderly person, with the consent of their family, of course, may be drugged up to the eyeballs to deaden their agonies and then totally deprived of food and fluid, so that they die, instead of being given medical treatment.  Guess what they call it?  TLC, tender, loving care.  It is nothing more nor less than legalized murder.

Elderly people who break bones or have hip operations etc do not receive physiotherapy in the way they do here.  They are just given a list of exercises to do at home, with the result it is practically impossible for them to get properly mobile again.  

I could go on and on.  But I won't.

Not gonna happen.
Even though medicines and treatments have advanced, greatly improving the quality of life even for our seniors, his universal plan will set us back.

For example: 3 of my grandparents lived into their 90's, and my grandmother was 88 (Pap is 94 and still going strong), and my other grandfather still had all his faculties at 97, carried his cane in case he neede to straighten someone out, and still liked his Skyline Coneys and beer (but since Gram died he gave up on life and went quickly). With Obama's plan, if someone is diagnosed (or worse, misdiagnosed) with congestive heart failure, they're supposed to accept that they're getting old and their health will deteriorate, dope them up and try to get comfy 'til they die, instead of trying to correct their health.

In addition, if we are to carry private insurance (which in theory would save the gov't money) he wants to penalize us with a thousand dollar fine...?! In the meantime, we'll keep providing free health benefits to illegals and paying for abortions in other countries when we could be housing and feeding our own homeless and properly caring for our elderly and infirm.

In the medical game, it will all depend on who you are on the roster as to whether or not you're placed in the line-up: They'll pick and choose who gets what treatment based on age, stature, and the probability of what you may be able to contribute to society in your future.

If he would offer US the same health plan that HE and congress are entitled to, find a way to control frivolous malpractice suits, and minister to our citizens before endowing the illegals, not only would I live with it, I'd demonstrate in public my support of sending our tax dollars to cover its costs.

Nope.
He will come up with a plan we have to live with. It will put us so far in debt and reduce public health to such a low level as to make our present situation seem like the good old days.

He already has a plan but actually living with it  i don't think so. You will either be able to afford individual care under your own private insurance or you will be waiting for days for health care under this plan. I have watched the shows on the health care plan as they have it now and most people do not even go to the doctor because they can not receive any real medical treatment. They can not even get a pair of glasses that are prescribed so they can see to do a job. I would like to see it all rainbows and lollipops but it is more like looking through mud.he is talking about doing away with all the paperwork that most of us can not even understand in the first place just to receive treatment which sounds a lot like taking one more step to full governmental control of just one more aspect of your lives...it sounds a little too much like the anti christ and not being able to buy or sell without having a chip embedded in your hand or head...(you think i am paranoid but i think it is a obvious step in order to do away with a paper or information trail).i can just see the chaos coming when all the records are only in the computer and they can't retrieve them from the memory or back up files. Besides i don't like to think about what i can not change.i am even seeing doctors taking extra monies for what they call  preferred plans.in other words they are leaving regular practices and starting up what i like to call a boutique clinic where they only take care of their rich clients/or how should i say this feeding off the rich while leaving the average working class people out in the cold looking for treatment..i guess doctors are no longer going to honor their oath and the reason they got into medicine in the first place. I better quit now before i say something i will really regret.

I hope Obama can make health care more equitable.  I've always struggled to see how a country as rich and prosperous as the US can allow millions of its citizens to struggle with chronic ill health.  Here in the UK, people 'complain' about the NHS (National Health Service), but if it was removed or means-tested there would be uproar.

Good health, to me, is much more of a right than a privilege in a civilised society.

My magic 8 ball is saying NO.

He will come up with something probably but can we live with it!  Probably NOT!  We may not have a choice though.  (Can we say SOCIALISM!!!????)   :{

What else can he do he doesnt have much choice and whatever he comes up with those of us that  are having hard times and has little or no health care will have to deal with it as we do now i just pray he does whats best for the people and not what he thinks is best i know this was definitely a problem way before he got into office i just pray he fixes it.

No, we are all different, and we all have different illness, there isn't any one plan that will say that each and every illness imaginable will be covered. Just isn't going to happen.

No, the biggest flaw I personally see is the taxation of business owners who gross 350,000. Or more to create this "stockpile". Notice the word "Gross". I truly believe that if the american people voted to take away the insurance, lifetime salary, and the such from our supposed officials and force them to get to pay for their own insurance, medical, dental and 401 ks, we would have plenty of funds to take care of those  in low or middle income families with no insurance. Oh yeah, and the outrageous salaries. 86,000.00 per county board member in one of my counties. They only work part-time. 20-25 hrs per week. Gee, how much could we save there?

I am very Hopeful about the plan. Some new things have been added in this plan!

I tried to give a whole lot of thumbs up... But as usual it wont let me. Theres really nothing I can say that has not already been said. I agree that whatever Obama comes up with cant possibly work for everyone. As Tig said... We're all different, with different health concerns... No blanket can cover us all adaquately. And as for fining us for NOT having private insurance.... What makes him think we can pay a fine if we cant already afford private insurance?  Awesome answers... And interesting reading.

That's a tough question. So far, I would have to say no because his goals are still too self-centered. Could a Health Plan eventually be created that we can all live with? I believe that could happen, but not until someone sees past the end of their nose and actually really cares about this once great country.

No I do not,. He will come up with a plan that will spend Billions of our dollars and put us in worse shape then we were before.

I think at least half of the U.S. Can live with it but like my parents they dont like it and they think that we are going to have a worse depression that the Great Depression so my answer is NO i dont think we can all live with it

Honestly, I feel that Barack Obama will come up with something but I don't feel that it's going to be for the best benefit of the people.  However, he is faced with too many immediate needs of the world and is having to fix a great deal of problems that most newly elected President's normally do not encounter.  Barack Obama has fantastic ideas, concepts and values when it comes to the true benefit of the people, by the people, and for the people; but due to the unfortunate financial crash that he has inherited his overall focuses may not be for the best for the people due to the type of planning that has gone into this particular area of the world for all of us.  So in short, we probably won't be able to live with it when it does happen; but I do feel that he will do his best to make changes to whatever he finds that is not working the best for us all. God bless Barack Obama because personally he walked into a mess of the world from the beginning due to the errors of so many previously reigning President's ... So with that being said, I respect the man for all that he is trying to do when having to bare the burdens from others that he had nothing to do with at all.

Sure, if you don't mind paying for it for the next 100 years. And it's FULL of pork barrel riders. Like 1.3 BILLION designated for bike trails and hiking trails. And if he protests these riders ( there are DOZENS of them), his proposal will stall and never get passed. Disgusting washington politics as usual.

I certainly hope so, but I don't think he can do it. It's already been tough with him as president. :(

To tell you the truth no. He never will and so far he is just making our country worse with the stimulus plans that are not helping anyone. And he has even said in one of his speech's this how will I go down in History. He cares about what the future think and every time a president has done that they have always turned out to be a bad president. I think if Obama is not careful he could go down as one of the worst presidents in history.

Yes but it will be watered down by the low life's that gave there selves a BIG raise!

Don't think so :(

I do not believe so because for one the republicans will not agree with any of his ideas and two he hasn't given them a good enough of an idea to agree with.

NO. NO. NO.NO.NO.  Not in any of our lifetimes will there be a health plan fair to all, equal to all, available to all, of reasonable cost, or understood by all.
Ladywitch