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From what I gather, there are two schools of thought about this:
1) The dinosaurs died in the Great Flood and scientists are just wrong and/or lying about the dating of the bones (which would be off by millions of years, somehow).
2) Satan planted the fossils and made them appear so old for the lulz. I mean, to trick us into believing in the evolution theory. Because that's what Satan does.
(Alternatively, God planted them for the lulz. I mean, as a test of faith. Because that's what God does.)
Number 1 seems to be the more generally accepted idea, which I find rather disappointing.
1) The dinosaurs died in the Great Flood and scientists are just wrong and/or lying about the dating of the bones (which would be off by millions of years, somehow).
2) Satan planted the fossils and made them appear so old for the lulz. I mean, to trick us into believing in the evolution theory. Because that's what Satan does.
(Alternatively, God planted them for the lulz. I mean, as a test of faith. Because that's what God does.)
Number 1 seems to be the more generally accepted idea, which I find rather disappointing.
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answered 5 months ago
Yes i agree thats what i think the best answer, noahs flood
I too agree with Noah's flood
scientistists didnt lie about the mil. Of years because they use carbon dating
what they dont know is that carbon dating doesnt work
the earth is only around 6 thous. Years pld
scientistists didnt lie about the mil. Of years because they use carbon dating
what they dont know is that carbon dating doesnt work
the earth is only around 6 thous. Years pld
Both of these posters (not you Alienor) have made it apparently clear that they are basing their unfounded "beliefs" on propaganda and misinformation. I dont have enough space in a comment reply to put them in their place, so I will link all of you to this:
Why Noah's flood is bogus:
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sD_7rxYoZY&NR=1 (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfSvktyxVYA&NR=1 (part 2)
Watch and LEARN.
Why Noah's flood is bogus:
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sD_7rxYoZY&NR=1 (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfSvktyxVYA&NR=1 (part 2)
Watch and LEARN.
Are these people touched in the head, or what?
"What they dont know is that carbon dating doesn't work"...
REALLY? Carbon dating doesn't work on fossils that HAVE NO FAWKING CARBON IN THEM? Wow! What a revelation!!!
First of all, C14 dating (e.g. "carbon 14 dating", AKA "carbon dating") only works on objects which are ~75,000 years old or LESS. Hence, it would NOT work for fossils which are MILLION of years old... Like... Oh, I don't know... DINOSAUR FOSSILS.
Secondly, Carbon 14 dating can only date TISSUE or PLANT MATTER and not FOSSILS. Dinosaur FOSSILS are FOSSILS because the TISSUE has been completely replaced by MINERALS (read: They have been turned into ROCK)... Hence THERE IS NO FAWKING CARBON IN IT!!! What does this mean? YOU CAN'T CARBON DATE THEM BECAUSE THERE IS NO FAWKING CARBON IN IT!!!!!!
Furthermore, fossils which are MILLIONS of years old (read: Dinosaur fossils) have their age measured by potassium-argon or argon-argon dating. Both methods are accurate to 0.5 million years... A time frame which becomes completely irrelevant when you are talking about fossils that are 65+/- MILLION YEARS OLD. Argon-argon, and potassium-argon dating methods have been proven time and again to be scientifically sound in repeatable studies and tests. What does this mean? There is a plethora of proof that these tests are as accurate (within their given limitation of +/- 0.5 million years) as can be has with current technology. On the other hand, there is NO documented scientific evidence stating that these dating methods can be off enough to account for the creationist "theory" (read: Mythology) that the entire planet is only 6,000 years old. Not even close.
On top of that scientists have used a much older, yet tried and true method of dating fossils. Namely, studying and dating the rocks which surround the fossils that have been found. This method, which has been backed up with centuries of empirical scientific evidence, precisely matches the dating data gained by methods such as argon-argon and potassium-argon dating.
Of course, since there are (allegedly) creationist "scientists" out there which support their beliefs... Why dont THEY come up with scientifically provable methods for dating which show dinosaur fossils to be +/- 6,000 years old? They havent yet! And why is that you may wonder?BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.
None of this, of course, is even touching upon the fact that even if (and I stress *IF*) a great flood wiped out the dinosaurs (WORLD WIDE, and ALL AT ONCE mind you), there wouldnt be enough time to turn their remains into petrified fossils! Let us not forget, too, that fossils occur in sequences... Meaning that not every single living dinosaur died at or even near the same time. These fossil remains are scattered over HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF YEARS worth of time.
In conclusion, let me say that before you start spouting off about how "carbon dating is wrong", you might want to read up on the subject given that fact that you dont know WTF you are even talking about. It only lends credence to the fact that you are WRONG and highly uneducated on the subject. It them becomes quite apparent that you are only going off of evangelical Christian propaganda instead of reading up on the FACTS and making your own INFORMED decisions on the matter. How sad indeed.
So what does this leave us with? Obviously a "great flood" can not account for the death of every dinosaur found. Obviously the "radio carbon dating fraud" claim is an unfounded MYTH. Obviously the dolts trying to propagate said myth have no clue as to how the actual science really works. Meaning the only thing left afloat is the tenuous belief that either the "devil" fabricated all of this proven scientific evidence or "God" did. Not exactly a ship-shape leg to be standing on.
Ill leave the zealots to their squabbling over undocumented propaganda.
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I await the nutter's replies, this should be good.
Ohh i have a question for u, do u believe what the god says in the bible to us or what science explains which is made of out of man and satan yes by him remember anybody who which believe in science like evolution satan rejoices but when u open u heart to god you follow what is true satan will hate u more and attack u more then ever before because god is the only truth youll find
First of all, as I said in your other thread, punctuation is your friend. Know it and use it.
Secondly, what a disappointing rebuttal! Honestly, all you can come up with is "The Bible says it is thus, and therefore it's true & you're wrong [sic]"? How lame and sophomoric.
And science is man's/Satan's creation? And who wrote the bible? And translated it? And edited it? And re-edited it? And re-re-edited it? And re-re-re-edited it? I do believe MAN did this. Want to answer that bit of logic?
Secondly, what a disappointing rebuttal! Honestly, all you can come up with is "The Bible says it is thus, and therefore it's true & you're wrong [sic]"? How lame and sophomoric.
And science is man's/Satan's creation? And who wrote the bible? And translated it? And edited it? And re-edited it? And re-re-edited it? And re-re-re-edited it? I do believe MAN did this. Want to answer that bit of logic?
On the 6th 24hr day "Land animals" and man was created. They existed with man, God called one name leviathan.
1. Sudden appearance of complex organism with few if any transitional forms
2. Oragism remain essentially the same to present or became extinct through mutation.
3. Fossilized modern species could be found in rock containing extinct species.
4. Different combinations of fossil species in different strata indicate ecological zones not evolutionary history.
The formation of fossils requires rapid burial of organism, rapid deposition of sediments, rapid burial is required because organism must escape destruction and decomposition.
There is so much more at answersingenesis.com or utube this awesome Creationist Dr. Jackson
Israela
1. Sudden appearance of complex organism with few if any transitional forms
2. Oragism remain essentially the same to present or became extinct through mutation.
3. Fossilized modern species could be found in rock containing extinct species.
4. Different combinations of fossil species in different strata indicate ecological zones not evolutionary history.
The formation of fossils requires rapid burial of organism, rapid deposition of sediments, rapid burial is required because organism must escape destruction and decomposition.
There is so much more at answersingenesis.com or utube this awesome Creationist Dr. Jackson
Israela
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