Just Ice
Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
i don't have to rewrite the Bible it's been done ad infinitum. The JW's New World Translation is just one of the numerous 66 book Protestant versions. Then there are the 73 book Catholic versions, the 81 book Ethiopian version, the 84 book Eastern Orthodox version and, if we include what the Christ preached from … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
A post full of ad hominems. You really have become totally bereft of anything positive to say about your beliefs. There is a bit of an insight though in "you would more easily realize that thee are a number of ideas out there that are an obvious improvement on some of yours." So you finally … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
"You've been used to having your way in these discussions for far too long apparently" that's because I try to stay on the side of common sense and am flexible enough to take on ideas that are an improvement on mine. "Maybe you aren't just "ice."" No, but put the last two words together and … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
what I posted are basic human truths practised at every opportunity, on every shopping trip. Maybe you're guided by the HS in every pursuit and don't need to compare and choose what you consider the best, but everyone else does. The other two paragraphs in your post are further evidence of you running out of … Read more
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Just Ice commented
"how does the "swimmer and a shark" analogy not fit as a description of what you said" - If you feel it does you would have explained how it does. What gives you the authority to declare "that you are wrong" and to speak on their behalf in saying, "I don't think explaining your concepts … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
free will implies freedom to choose and a free choice entails making a critical comparison of options and arriving at an inescapable conclusion about which option is the best, and being free to choose it. When someone turns to ad hominems it is a very sure indication they have run out of reasonable arguments and … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
The day I find someone who has understood the triune God enough to give a defensible explanation of it as the best understanding of God possible is the day I will have no option but to adopt the triune God concept. Until then anyone who claims to understand it is fooling himself and wants to … Read more
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Just Ice commented
The "swimmer and a shark" analogy is yours not mine. "You would rather have help in understanding God from your peers rather than the God who created you." is also YOUR interpretation of what I said. What I mean is that I must be able to explain my understanding of God to others and give … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
If you insist that the Holy Spirit can make you put 15 pints in a 10 pint container then there's not much else we can say, and we have to leave it at that.
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Just Ice commented
TJ If you "have found that Faith from God informed by reason---with the help of the Holy Spirit---can result in significant insight and knowledge." then that's good for you. i can no more argue against that then I can against people who might say that they can hear the rose fairy talk to them every … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
It is, by definition, not possible for a human being to have an understanding that exceeds the human capacity to understand. If any human claims such an understanding then he's either a liar or by definition not a human being any more, but a superhuman. It's like someone saying he's sending you 15 litres of … Read more
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Just Ice commented
DM I didn't say that my God doesn't need authentication. The authentication criteria for my God doesn't include the answered-prayers index. In other words I'm not likely to give up my concept of God for another person's concept if the basis for the proposed exchange is that the other person's God has a higher answered-prayers … Read more
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Just Ice commented
TJ I agree that Truth is what it is, independent of what any of us thinks it to be. However, if Truth is not above reason, and there is nothing in our accumulated knowledge so far to suggest that it is, then we can through the use of reason work out which of our perceptions … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Tom Jackson's answer
The different concepts of God held by the different religions and denominations cannot be explained away by comparison to the different concepts of God children have as they grow up. However, I agree that we can comprehend God only to the limit of our understanding. Though this limit may vary from person to person it … Read more
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Just Ice commented on Walt O'Reagun's answer
ok it's a different subject but worthy of exploration nonetheless. I have option 5 which I think is more reasonable. - There is only one God. He is the creator of all. It therefore follows that He cares for the guidance of all humanity. He did not wait till Moses, or Jesus or Mohammed was … Read more
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Just Ice commented
"Our truth is the conformity of our mind to that which exists---insofar as we are capable of understanding it." true and most of us are capable of understanding one another's concept of God. I also agree with "We are self made men to a large degree." the degree representing our free will. However, if it's … Read more