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Call me Z Profile
Call me Z answered

True science is neutral on the positions of religion. Famed biologist Stephen Jay Gould called them "nonoverlapping magisteria".

IMO, no, they are fundamentally incompatible.

By comparison: Science seeks evidence through systematic inquiry and study to build a base of knowlege that is constantly evolving and refining; 

While religions are generally founded upon "revealed" word, legends, prophesy and miracles, are not associated with evidence, and can neither further evolve nor refine.

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Aria Broeka
Aria Broeka commented
And you base your entire fallacy of the non-existance of a God whom you cant disprove exists while for me proof of His existance is everywhere and in everything. Your faith in Gods non-existance is as baseless as you believe mine Faith in His existance to be.
Call me Z
Call me Z commented
BS. It is the burden of the one who asserts a point to give evidence of such claims. You have none. The fact that the concept of God cannot be disproven is the sole reason the entire story hasn't been relegated to the scrap heap of history, It will eventually be, though I regret that I won't live to see the eradication of such ignorance as you advocate.
Darik Majoren
Darik Majoren commented
Aria,
Which God are we to believe in?
In the realm of possibilities involving ALL Supernatural claims, each as equal footing.
So, to invoke truth to the claim "God Exists" invokes truth that ALL Gods exist . . . otherwise, as you said above, PROVE THEY DON'T.
Since most of these Gods are mutually exclusive in their claim to be "The One True God" . . . there is nothing but fallacy that follows such claims.
Therefore the default IS that no Gods exist, and the burden of proof remains on the person making the supernatural claim that God/Gods do exist. That is why any Atheist simply address the same prong of logic with regards to this . . . we simply say you haven't met your burden of proof so we do not believe YOUR claim.
Tris Fray Potter Profile

Religion is a theory, just like any other scientific claim.  It should not be dismissed, although, we do not yet have the knowledge to prove it right one way or another, like the theory of parallel universes.

Personally, I don't believe in regarding religion as a science, because, at this stage in our development as a species, I think it hinders any progress that we might make.  However, we might one day come to a knowledge so great that we can take it as a science without any side effects.  So, I think that until we can prove the existence of religion through, we should treat it like any other theory that we cannot prove with our current knowledge.

Pepper pot Profile
Pepper pot answered

There are scientists that maintain their religious beliefs so that would suggest yes.

Science will tell you this,( quote taken from BBC bitesize) :-

Scientists believe the Universe began in a hot ‘big bang’ about 13,600 million years ago. The Universe continues to expand today. The evidence for the Big Bang theory includes the existence of a microwave background radiation, and red-shift. Stars do not remain the same, but change as they age.

The Big Bang theory

Scientists have gathered a lot of evidence and information about the Universe. They have used their observations to develop a theory called the Big Bang. The theory states that about 13.7 billion years ago all the matter in the Universe was concentrated into a single incredibly tiny point. This began to enlarge rapidly in a hot explosion, and it is still expanding today.

Evidence for the Big Bang includes:

  • all the galaxies are moving away from us
  • the further away a galaxy is, the faster it is moving away.

These two features are found in explosions - the fastest moving objects end up furthest away from the explosion.

Scientists have also detected a cosmic microwave background radiation or CMBR. This is received from all parts of the Universe and is thought to be the heat left over from the original explosion.

Where as religious belief will tell you this:-

The Salt Doll

A salt doll journeyed for thousands of miles and stopped on the edge of the sea.

It was fascinated by this moving liquid mass, so unlike anything it had seen before.

"What are you?" said the salt doll to the sea.

"Come in and see," said the sea with a smile.

So the doll waded in. The further it went the more it dissolved till there was only a pinch of it left. Before the last bit dissolved the doll exclaimed in wonder, "Now I know what I am!"

Label Makers

Buddha once pointed to a flower and asked each of this disciples to say something about it.

One pronounced a lecture. Another poem. Yet another a parable. Each outdid the other in depth and erudition.

Mahakashyap smiled and held his tongue. Only he had seen the flower.


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Pepper pot
Pepper pot commented
I just took a quick look to see how many scientists polled believe in a God, a higher power or universal spirit, and it is approx 51%
Darik Majoren
Darik Majoren commented
You don't think there is a direct correlation to intersect what is known from evidence to what is believed and ingrained as belief?

I suppose if many clergy find their way to atheism (http://clergyproject.org/) it isn't totally unbelievable that a true scientist who begins with religion can still be bound to following the natural evidence no matter where it leads them.

I agree with you that did paint that with a rather "Broad Brush" . . . I should have added "Some" so it didn't look like every. Good catch Pepper.
Pepper pot
Pepper pot commented
I think if you read the two examples that I have given, they speak to two very different parts of ourselves. Hence, why some can make room for both.
Aria Broeka Profile
Aria Broeka answered

Why would it be incompatible?    That which humans label 'science' is merely the discovery and description of processes already in place, created God God, set in place and in motion by God.    Secularists/athiests only mistake is in refusing to see and acknowlege Gods role.    That and trying to use their imaginations to make up things to add to reality that arent reality except in the unproven theories theyve invented.    Theories that never

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Call me Z
Call me Z commented
Based on what? Your feeling that a God exists. Haha. Jokes on you.
Darik Majoren
Darik Majoren commented
The only weight heresy and blasphemy holds, is to those whom believe . . . to us they are but words you assign to those who do not follow your fantasy world view.
Even if the Tower of babble was to have been a metaphorical or allegorical reference, it was addressing man's curiosity about God and how God saw this as a threat and immediately confused man in working together in in this endeavor. That same unchanging God of the Bible would not want man trying to learn those things that should be part of God's creation . . .
Such as it is, it merely enforces the contradictions plaguing religious dogma. This discussion held a millennium ago would have met with being burnt alive for Heresy.
Call me Z
Call me Z commented
Aria, once you evolve your thinking past the unfounded presumption that "God is", and discover where that presumption comes from; ie what the source of your perception of god is, you may start to step upon the ground of critical analysis that will cast light on how tenuous and flawed the entire idea has always been. Posiedon hadn't been disproven either, but list the reasons you don't believe in him.
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Walt O'Reagun answered

I think The Z has the best answer.

The question is like asking: "Are apples compatible with rocks"

Science is a process - not a belief system.

Religion is a belief system.

Michael Poland Profile
Michael Poland answered

Science flies people to the moon.

religion flies people into buildings.

If you were looking to wipe out human kind,

religion would be one way to go.

Is it time to evolve yet ?

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Darik Majoren
Darik Majoren commented
I agree, and then science builds weapons of mass destruction . . . It seems we will find a way to "Self Terminate" if given enough rope to hang ourselves with.

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