mary adam

Do you think article 50 will ever be triggered? Bookmakers have now shortened their odds,what do you think?

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Ray Dart Profile
Ray Dart answered

Interesting. I suspect it will be "triggered", but I also suspect that the politicians on both sides will drag out the entire process for longer than the formal 2 years.

The EC is notoriously unable to make serious decisions (in fact they only ever work in incremental changes). The UK have no need to proceed quickly.

Be prepared for years of obfuscation and procrastination.

Didge Doo Profile
Didge Doo answered

Ray is almost certainly correct. It's hard to get decisions from politicians and bureaucrats. And the Scots see this as a second chance for independence.

By the time anybody gets around to it, it may all become have moot anyway. If Trump wins the election on November 8 and declares himself Emperor, the the UK and the British Commonwealth are likely to be swallowed up in an American hegemony and the EU will fade into insignificance beside the new world empire.

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Didge Doo
Didge Doo commented
Perhaps you're right, and perhaps that fear will keep them in the fold. It was a near thing last time. If they live up to the words of Scotland the Brave they'll leap in with both feet. Me? I'm only a colonial so my opinion doesn't count, though it's interesting to watch from afar.

A bit like watching this year's US presidential election. As somebody posted a couple of days ago, it's a contest between Dumb and Dumber.
mary adam
mary adam commented
Maybe they will Didge, and I cannot take that from them because we had the option to split from the EU. However it is odd that they would spilt from the UK and join the EU bearing in mind most of the countries in it have had to be bailed out, and that it would mean they would have free movement of people i.e an influx of immigration and migration to gain access to free health care and housing, Scotland may lose it's identity all together. Makes you wonder what they are trying to gain independence from?

I cannot believe that we have so much coverage of the US presidential election, it's like watching a verbal boxing match.
Didge Doo
Didge Doo commented
Very good point that. They could become inundated.

I've never known so much hatred to be shown in an election. I thought the GOP were scraping the bottom of the barrel with Reagan and Dubya, but this guy is unbelievable.

Back in an hour or two but you should be in bed by then. :)
Virginia Lou Profile
Virginia Lou answered

Dear Mary Adam,

Short answer, I don't know...from your Q I am actually learning about this... the BBC says this:

"The UK voted to leave the EU in June but this is no short-term relationship where you can unfollow, delete and move on. (And the process of leaving is called Article 50.)
Some experts believe it could take up to 10 years for the UK to exit the European Union."

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I actually found two helpful news articles, The Washington Post as well as the BBC:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/24/article-50-the-untested-piece-of-e-u-legislation-that-will-control-britains-future/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36634702/article-50-the-simplest-explanation-youll-find

And I second the welcome you have received from Otis, glad you are here on Blurt.

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mary adam
mary adam commented
Maybe they are hoping that we'll all forget. "Referendum? What Referendum?"
Virginia Lou
Virginia Lou commented
Hi Mary, by 'they,' I am guessing you might mean the rest of the EU?
From my own (very limited) reading it does appear Great Britain's participation in the EU is extremely important to it's viability...

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